Taylor Swift’s Matty Healy, Jack Antonoff, & Lucy Dacus Connection, Explained

Trigger warning: This piece contains a brief mention of suicidal thoughts. It’s rare for Taylor Swift to namedrop in song, but on the title track of her new album The Tortured Poets Department, she somewhat breaks the rules.

In the song’s bridge, she sings, “Sometimes, I wonder if you’re gonna screw this up with me, but you told Lucy you’d kill yourself if I ever leave, and I had said that to Jack about you, so I felt seen.”

Naturally, it only took a couple of minutes for the investigative Swifties to figure out who she was likely referring to: her frequent collaborator Jack Antonoff, who produced the track, and Boygenius member Lucy Dacus. And Swift shares a common thread with both of them through her rumored ex-boyfriend Matty Healy, the lead singer of The 1975.

The Connections, Explained

It didn’t take much for Swifties to connect Swift’s mention of Jack back to Antonoff. The Grammy-winning producer also worked with Healy on The 1975’s 2022 album Being Funny in a Foreign Language, so it tracks that Swift would get deep about her relationship with a mutual friend of the former couple.

Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, and Lucy Dacus of Boygenius pose with Taylor Swift and Jack Antonoff

Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, and Lucy Dacus of Boygenius pose with Taylor Swift and Jack Antonoff at 66th GRAMMY Awards on February 04, 2024 in Los Angeles, California.Kayla Oaddams/WireImage/Getty Images

More to come…

If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts, call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-8255 or text HOME to the Crisis Text Line at 741741. You can also reach out to the Trans Lifeline at 877-565-8860 or the Trevor Lifeline at 1-866-488-7386, or to your local suicide crisis center.

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